Recently I decided to go back to dating.
I dislike dating apps, so i had been taking classes and meeting men through those or friends of a friend.
I started getting to know two guys this year (after taking my time to level up and healed past two years).
the first one we were friends from a class for over 4 months before I was open to us hanging out on our own, and subsequently started to go on dates, and when i’m ready, we slept together. Of which a day after we were intimate he said he was hang up with his exes (yes, plural) and is going on a holiday to meet an ex, and proceed to flirt with another girl in front of me openly just 12 hours after we were intimate.
Super different from how respectful he had been the previous 4 months.
Safe to say i cut him off.
Recently i had been getting to know a guy, once again we are friends for about 2 months, before we hang out on our own, we were super compatible and we had the same background, expectations and similarities, etc. We made out, No sex.
then i’m getting a weird feeling that this guy is not proceeding or trying to have sex at all.
After going out and spending the night 3x, i brought up a conversation about sex.
His answer was ambiguous, from performance anxiety on penetrative, to how he goes through mental orgasm but not physically ejaculate (Dry orgasm?).
but generally i had a feeling he didn’t seem to be fully into what i’m doing when we made out. I openly made a conversation about how i could not figure him out, and one of them is that he’s either has low libido, virgin or perhaps gay.
and he admitted he is bisexual.
i dont have much experience with bisexual men, but similar to men who are used to porn, it seems that bisexual men could possibly enjoy sex with male more than female, especially in the case of a person who is “verse“. which made sense how he may prefer certain act of which female may not be able to fulfil.
he also admitted he has had multiple partners at a time, even if he hadn’t have penetrative sex or has had multiple partners in a while.
I used to always advocate not engaging in sex before relationship, but my recent experience seems to show that certain things are hidden until physical intimacy is considered/taken place.
Men tend to cover things they figure u may not like to hear, and if you are a woman who is looking for something to settle down, have a child, there are a lot of things out there who could surprise you.
I used to think meeting these men are rare case, but it seems it is more common now in 21st Century. How do you navigate these?
How do you ensure the conversation of sexuality, polyamory, etc. are being done before sex even considered?
is it something need to be brought up on first date?
"His answer was ambiguous, from performance anxiety on penetrative, to how he goes through mental orgasm but not physically ejaculate (Dry orgasm?).
but generally i had a feeling he didn’t seem to be fully into what i’m doing when we made out."
Throw that whole guy away. Him worrying about "performance anxiety" and not getting aroused by you guys making out screams "Pornsick = limp dick"! Seriously, do not even consider it. He's either pornsick or there is another deep, dark secret there.
He's not enthusiastic about you. That alone should be a dealbreaker. All those weird excuses make it even worse.
It sounds like this guy (the second one) isn't worth your time anymore. Throw this one back and onto the next fish in the sea! As far as your question about bisexuality and poly being brought up early on when dating: If that's a deal breaker for you then YES ask a potential date how he feels about poly/bisexuality within the first couple of conversations and dates for vetting purposes. Make sure to keep that conversation open ended and don't explicitly say that A thing and B thing are deal breakers bc men will say whatever you want to hear to create false intimacy. Side note: Don't feel bad about this standard either. Your standards are valid! "Sorry I only want to date het men into monogamous relationships" is a normal and reasonable standard. Save your sanity and don't engage with people who are jerks to you for that standard.
So you didn't have to have sex w the first guy at all. Making out can tell you everything you need to know about compatibility. I'm 1000% for the rule of no sex wo commitment (and make them wait a while after commitment to prove it) You're methods of meeting men are good but you aren't really following FDS in your practice once you're on the dates and vetting them- there're some good posts about sexual compatibility that give much better strategy