So I’ve met a very kind man. We actually met off a dating app. So I don’t really have high hopes for those.
We have gone out on a few dates now, all have been very thoughtful and I can tell he’s put the effort in. In many ways I do think he’s HV, well from what I’ve seen so far. Obviously vetting never stops.
He isn’t my boyfriend yet. But this coming weekend he’s planned a very romantic date. I don’t know all the details yet because I like being surprised but I do know some. And it’s looking very thoughtful, as in he has been listening to me and figuring out what I like and it seems like it will be very romantic. So I’m excited about it! He’s planned everything!
I think this weekend he will make things official with me.
This will be our 4th date.
I just want to know what you ladies think, is this too soon to ask?
The second part of this question has to do with love bombing. Now, I don’t think this is what he’s doing but I feel like you can never be sure. Besides taking me out on high effort dates he’s very sweet to me. Like he compliments me and all that. He is also making plans for further into the future, in the coming months. He asks me a lot about what I like and enjoy doing and he seems to take what I say and turn them into a date or he talks about doing those things in the future.
I assume this is what a HVM would do? How can i tell if he's being sincere? Or is it even possible and i have to wait and see ?
In the past sometimes i have a hard time following fds completely and it always fucks me over but in the past 6 months or so I've been taking fds very seriously and now it seems l've found a guy who meets my standards and seems to be hv.
Everyone is always so smart and gives amazing advice on here and i just want to
know you gyns think.
Hmm sounds like future faking and love bombing, also, if he does ask to be your boyfriend after 4 dates, that's way too soon. You dont know this person.
Please keep vetting and be careful. Also pay attention on how he treats others around you.
It's best to be suspicious. Good luck.
what you're experiencing seems pretty good. personally, i don't think there's a foolproof strategy beyond constant vetting. of course you have to be alert enough to get out when shit hits the fan but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the good things that he's doing for you while they're happening. remember, it's only when the red flags start waving that you have to check yourself and your relationship.
Time, vetting ferociously, and noticing whether or not he switches it up on you after he’s gotten whatever he wanted out of you. Typically, things dudes want out of women are the conquest, getting her to move in with him, getting her pregnant, getting her to move cross country and be more isolated with him - whatever his goal was for using you. Which could all take years to uncover. Took some of us 15+ years until the mask dropped. And women are still so shocked that this is common enough, because it’s so rarely warned about. Honestly best to assume it’s lovebombing and read up on the narcissistic abuse cycle, just in case things turn ugly for you or a friend. Women need to be able to get out once the devaluing stage starts, because the discard phase can quickly turn violent.
Try saying no about small things: change plans slightly; say no to one restaurant and suggest another. See how he handles being disagreed with.
This sounds promising, however, I caution you against giving him the HV label. It’s too soon and could cloud your vetting
This happened to my ex best friend with her boyfriend. So when he was in the love bombing phase like this guy is, I told her to tell him that she likes him but wants to keep dating and getting to know each other before deciding to become boyfriend and girlfriend. Four dates isn't a lot of time or money. Has he spent $5K on you yet? Because that's about the amount of money and time he needs to spend on you to not be just trying to play you for sex. And if he's rich then bump it to $10K. Men don't appreciate what comes easy to them, and where they spend their money is where their "heart" is. This guy could easily be setting you up for 4th date sex and then a ghosting or a cooling off and adding you to his harem so that he's got another girl to fuck once per week. Unless he's spending all of his time and money on you, you can't be sure he's actually interested in you.
I don't like to get into a relationship with a man til around the 8 date mark (+/- 2 dates)- that way I have time for him to prove consistent effort. And I reject the exclusivity play- I've been asked about exclusivity before around the 4th date, and I decided to tell him I don't do that, I'm either in a relationship or not- and proceeded to get progressively lower effort from him. SO if a man asks for exclusivity - don't tell him what you would prefer, tell him it sounds like y'all are looking for different things. Because a man who's asking for exclusivity is PURPOSELY lowballing you to hook you on the idea of a relationship without having to provide one
say no if he pops the question. explain you want to take it slow or whatever. if he stops being so lovely and all, dump him.
i think we can never be sure and honestly the idea of vetting for the rest of my life sounds exhausting and makes me want to die very much alone.