I do. I tell every female, pickme or not, about FDS. I feel it is my duty to rescue as many as I can. As I only discovered this wisdom at age 47. I can't bare thought of younger women suffering for as long as I did. Even if they reject it, don't understand it right now. I KNOW they will....one day. On their own timeline. But when they are finally emotionally ready to take in the lessons, they'll remember me telling them about FDS way back when.
I feel it is all of our duties to amass an FDS army out in the world, and not to just keep it to ourselves. I am also espousing "some" Princella Clark wisdom. Although far more radical than FDS, I feel she is on to something.
I am not just telling women IRL. I will DM women on Reddit who post their sad, horrible dating experiences on dating advice/relationship type subreddits, and some have come on board!
Don't you think we need to take on the responsibility of spreading the word? I have personally converted about 8 women so far. Some rejected it too. But it's too important. The men are winning. We have to fight. Fight for our lives.
I've been trying to do this but so far I only do it lowkey, not mentioning this site, but I stand by the points here. Like when my friends talk about who has to pay for first date, I always say it's for the man. But so far only one of my friends agree with me 😅 With that one friend, it's easier to share more things I learned from FDS.
I think "let the man pay" is the first gate to FDS for women like me (late 20s, working, exposed to "women and men are equal!"). Because that's the first step for women to put themselves before men.
30-something woman here. I agree wholeheartedly that knowing about FDS earlier in my life would have saved me decades of heartbreak. I also relish the idea of a virtual FDS army.
So far, I've told a couple women in my life about FDS. On the surface, they seem amenable enough to my recommendations, but I don't know if they really believe in it. We'll see. It's their battle, not mine. *shrug*
I think it’s important t o tell other women about fds. But I find it’s advice they don’t want to listen to
I love Princella. That is all.
I really want to, but I try to get to know a woman first to see if she would be receptive. I've pretty much only told my family about it. I find my teenage relatives are way more receptive than women in their 20s - mid 40s. My nieces and cousins are flooded with porny anti woman messaging and they're sick of it. I find some older women struggle with even questioning libfem rhetoric, because it gets them attention and occasionally bad sex. (That's my point though. Sex pozi libfem hasn't actually improved their lives. They want normal relationships, and all they get is temporary positive attention, and then immediate disrespect. So why not try saying "no" more often?)
I have my own personal red flags for women. A user on here said she cant trust a woman who is comfortable and/or proud being a side piece. I can't believe I never really thought about that before, so that's been added to the red flag list. (Thank you whoever posted that)
I would love to tell every woman but it is honestly dangerous. I have had two women say that I "hate men" because I said that I hate pedophiles, I shit you not. One of them has a young daughter. :/
I forward the handbook. And let them read. I told a 15 year old girl not to fool around with men when you still working on your future because when they get you knocked up unplanned Then there are two things that is guaranteed to happen. He becomes a cowardly dog and denies your child “It’s not mine” or he stays and forces you to give up everything so that his life remains the same.
If a man likes you he’ll ask you for Coffee. If a man want to impress you he’ll pay for dinner without asking for sex in return. Actions always speak louder than words. And when I said that to her the mother wanted to read the handbook as well.
I try to be stealthy. I'll wait to bring it up when I feel they'll be receptive. I'll be all, "oh have you heard about FDS? It started on reddit, and now they have a website, or something, Idk, but you should listen to the podcast, I'm actually really into it" and then I'll offer some pearls of FDS wisdom as selling points. I've had success this way. Its hard not to come on too strong, though, when I'm so excited about FDS lol
I'm blunt and just say what I think, so of course this has led to me giving FDS-alligned advice. However, I go through phases of listening to what friends or people say without particularly caring to comment since they're adults and it's their life and then also pointing out the many ways in which women can do so much better without actually mentioning FDS.
I've found that people are generally uninterested in reading anything or listening to anything new. It's the rare few who will be curious enough to do so. They're more inclined to listen in the moment to what you're saying.
Yes, and it helps me weed out who in my life will excuse male aggression towards me, and who I can trust, and who I should trust back.
I love sharing FDS! (50 yo here)
I wish I knew about it when I was young. I tried The Rules but it felt so performative, not really focused on self-care and more on “do what makes men salivate,“ so I was half-hearted about it. The Rules doesn‘t really call men out on their bad behavior, or talk about how they only see women as appliances.
I send FDS podcast episodes to friends on topics they mention. The ladies are so funny 😆 and it’s a nice entree into the concepts. Most of my friends are my age, and we’ve all been used, abused & hurt by men for decades - so they get it.
If I can save one woman from more heartache or abuse, I will!
When I found out a friend was struggling with men who treated her bad, I did link her to these resources. Ultimately it is up to her how she decides to proceed.
I am not actively recruiting women into FDS or anything else. I am not preaching nor proselytizing my own values and beliefs. I do sometimes openly talk about my views on gender and sex and feminism. Just for talking about radfem topics, people have accused me of being "too preachy" and "annoying". Just because I had a different view and was open to debate them on the topic of (my stance) "BDSM is a fancy name to disguise and legitimize domestic violence against women". People hated on me just for saying that.
I don't actively seek controversy. Just that I enjoy debates and hoped to run into actual mature adults who are able to set their feelings aside and think rationally. I was even open to change my stance on the topic of BDSM. But no one came up with any compelling arguments that would prove my view to be wrong. Instead all they did was attack my character with ad hominems.
So yeah... It's generally kinda risky to even talk about feminism in any capacity.
There are also several things about FDS that I'm not fully on board with. I have voiced these disagreements in previous comments. When I first found FDS on Reddit, I had already been pre-blocked by a bot (or an overly judgmental moderator??? who knows...) before I even interacted with the FDS subreddit.... before I even knew it existed, you had blocked me on my main Reddit account.... And nobody ever told me why. I suspect 2 reasons. One is that back then, FDS was auto-banning everyone who joined popular subreddits.... Another possible reason was a self deprecating sarcastic joke I posted on a thread on a different subreddit that got noticed by FDS. My sense of humor is very weird, I know. And it is possible that humor doesn't carry over well in written format. Still. All that story, and some other details about how FDS was run back then.... it all put a bad taste in my mouth and for awhile I had some very mixed feelings about FDS. Then I noticed that most of the advice given was things I already do.... And none of it has really helped me find a loving relationship with a man.... And all advice here was mostly focused on heterosexual people....so....didn't get any tips on how to find a loving relationship with a woman. In the end, I'm feeling like: is FDS really useful for when women are looking for love? I'm not sure. So if I'm not sure of something myself, I'm less likely to suggest it to others.
I did recommend FDS to that one friend because I recognized her behavior as typical pick-me girl behavior, and she reached out asking us all for advice... And the guys in our friend group were feeding her shitty advice. So I did reach out privately and link her to this site. I don't know if she actually ended up reading through FDS. We don't really talk anymore. I left that friend group we were in. Part of my new year's resolution is to not spend too much time in toxic spaces.
If I feel like a space gets too toxic, to the point where it can't be improved, because nobody cares.... I think it's better to leave. Don't want to waste energy arguing about some trivial shit when people are intentionally being assholes. That's not debating. That's just making noise.