Ive just noticed when I'm in public that I attract a lot of aggression from men.
Just recently, for example, I was walking towards a two-way exit and a guy on the other side sees me and swings the door open with full force. He's not a small dude either he could have actually hurt me if I didn't jump out of the way. I turn to see if maybe it was an accident and if he'll acknowledge me in any way, and bro is just staring at me with this sadistic Ted Bundy grin on his face.
A lot of these MRAs claim "women become invisible" as we age and I'm like....When is this going to happen?? Since I was 18, strange men have basically targeted me for harassment and violence on a consistent basis.
I'd say once a month I have an interaction like this with a man. And it's been my life for ten years. Them just going out of their way to make me feel uncomfortable at the least, and actually afraid at the worst. I don't know if it's because I'm small, or maybe I'm already so terrified of men they see me as the perfect target.
Seems like they don't even think about it at all a lot of the time.
Does this happen to you? Has anyone had this problem and changed their appearance and had positive results?
This shit becoming so common is why I started to open carry. Once guys see that I am armed they either go full rage or back off. Mostly back off because as we all know, the majority of guys are cowards.
I don't attract quite as much aggression as I used to, but I also actively avoid guys in public, I dress like I'm ready for battle, carry myself like I am too stuck-up to bother with, and I keep to myself as much as possible.
I am 37 and supposed to be post-wall, but I desperately wish for the day I finally become undateable and the guys LEAVE ME ALONE. I am a solid six foot tall ( ~1.83m for y'all not in the USA) and classically attractive I.E. long blonde hair, blue eyes, pretty face and hourglass figure. I actually like the way that I look, but I can't wear my hair down or put on more than a minimum of makeup without attracting far too much attention. Last time I 'glammed up' to go see my friends play at a bar I had to leave early because of some mediocre dusty drank enough liquid courage to come talk to me and decided that my firm NO was actually a 'try harder dumbass' and wouldn't leave me alone. Luckily I had my giant of a cousin with me and he was able to run interference.
I'm seeing a lot more males (I hesitate to call them men, because men don't act like this) who think that they are owed my attention and time, and start to get angry and violent when I refuse to give it to them. I think that the redpill BS and covid isolation have worked together to create a dangerous level of desperation and entitlement in men, and now we're seeing that bubble up and override their common sense. Also, the double edged sword of acceptance (and at times celebration) of mental illness without proper treatment.
You do not "attract" aggression from men. Men are aggressive and enjoy hurting women. It's not your fault.
There is something to predatory men being able to tell who is already scared of them. They have predatory intuition the same way we have intuition.
I have had a lot less creepy incidents once I naturally exuded a more "fuck off little boy" attitude. Not that I could actually win in a physical altercation, but I guess I exude the energy of "I won't go quietly, and this is not worth your time".
Whenever I'm walking down the street and may have to cross paths with someone who sets off my spidey senses, or a similar situation, I just mentally pull up all the rage at the various men I'd love to castrate and just let it eminate off me.
Idk about your entire life, but right now there is a thing happening in the red pill incel communities that they are actively encouraging males to hurt women publicly. To just choose any random woman and physically assault her in some way. I witnessed this first hand recently. I was walking in sidewalk north bound. There was another woman just ahead of me to my right also walking north bound. This male was walking south bound towards us. I noticed him notice her, but he didn't notice me notice him. She was wearing her ear pods and didn't notice anything. As he passed her, he kicked out his leg and kicked her foot causing her to trip and fall on her face. For no reason at all! Just randomly assaulted this woman minding her own business.
It happened to me too when I was getting into my car at a grocery store parking lot. I saw this guy in his car watching me. My intuition kicked off and something told me to walk back into the store but I didn't. He kept staring at me hard, watched me put my groceries in my car, watched me getting ready to pull out, then right as I started backing out, he flew out of his parking space and hit the back of my car, ON PURPOSE, then sped off!
I lived and worked in a big city for 20 years. The older I get, the more I work on my appearance. It seemed like the more elegant and professional and beautiful I worked to be, the more aggression I attracted.
The more I worked on my appearance, the more men followed me, yelled obscenities at me, all kinds of weird things. A man once lunged at me suddenly, face at my chest, while barking savagely lol. And that's just one example, I could go on for hours. It was strange behavior like that almost every day.
A few years ago I moved to a small town and have had no problems like that. I'd definitely agree it can be location based. Big cities house a lot of crazy men.
Partly it's the porn they are watching. The sadistic shit has the most views and most men don't have the moral voice in their head that turns them away from having their depraved fantasies carry into real life.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Being female in a man's world sucks. At the end of the day there's no lucky guaranteed subset of women who comes out unscathed😥
A lot of male strangers (and some women too) tend to be pissed off at me for some reason, especially in my neighbourhood. Like walk just straight towards me with an pissed expression on the street and me constantly having to dodge them, side eyeing me etc. Also slamming the stairway door in front of me, and other microagressions. I don't really take it personally when someone is in a bad mood, because everyone go through that sometimes. However it's not okay to take it out on others. When I told this to my bf and my parents, they said that it's probably because I look happy all the time (not smiling like a psychopath 24/7 but more content and peaceful if you catch my drift) and that tends to get on people's nerves sometimes. But I'm not sure if that's the case. It happens with men much more, for some reason there's something about me that riles them up, and it's not my personality because they're total strangers most of the time.
Reading the comments and this post are interesting and made me re-think some encounters I've had.
I live in a city in a more liberal type of area. I am short, overweight and biracial and look racially ambiguous to some folks - I am not blonde, blue eyed, etc. IMO these all culminate in me looking 'average' in that I don't really turn heads much on the regular day-to-day basis. However, I enjoy dressing in a very feminine alternative fashion once in awhile to go meet up with other friends who like the same thing. It does not look sexy in any way, but since it is more over the top than average daily wear and very feminine, it can draw attention; people might ask if I'm wearing a costume, doing a reenactment, etc. But the basic is that it looks very feminine, and it stands out.
As I mentioned, I believe that due to my looks I don't really stand out to men that much. But when I wear these clothes, I've had men act quite inappropriately to me. One time I got in an uber dressed like that and he kept complimenting me and started asking very personal questions about myself (are you married, are you from the area, what's your job, etc.) and would NOT stop talking to me despite my attempts to shut the conversation down. I wish I had been more aggressive/blunt in telling him to STFU but I was also very sick and trying to go home from an event because I wasn't feeling well and just didn't have the energy, and tbh sometimes it can be uneasy when you're in a strangers car and they have the power to drive off anywhere. Thankfully he just took me straight to my destination but the whole thing was so uncomfortable. After I got out of the car he literally rolled the window down to call out to me and "compliment" me once more and he watched me walk back into where I live (which is a very public campus with 24/7 security, thankfully).
Actually, the next day I was in one of my outfits again (it was a weekend where there was an event going on) and, still sick, I ran into a pharmacy to grab some cough drops. One of the workers started talking to me and asking me questions and I just said some very basic stuff and then left ASAP. This man literally LEFT HIS PLACE OF WORK and followed my friend and I down the block and fake went in to another store while we waited for our uber and when he came out 2 minutes later he had his phone up, very obviously taking photos/video of me and tried to talk to me again.
I will also say when I was even heavier (+50 lbs) I noticed I was even more invisible. But after losing weight, although still overweight, this sort of thing has happened more often to me. If I put more effort into my appearance (like just wearing a nicer than usual outfit, more makeup, etc) I notice the attention from men seems to go up more. My experience has been that basically the more feminine I look, the more negative attention I receive. Honestly, I do like dressing more femininely and it's nice getting the positive attention...but when I dress that way and all I get are scary goblins lurching at me, making me feel unsafe, it really doesn't make me want to put that type of effort into my appearance.
I illicit whininess combined with sexual greed, in the worst way possible. Men tend to get softer around me, but then talk about how their lives are so hard because they aren't getting hand jobs.
The toughest dudes want to make me listen to their sob stories and then get offended when I don't want to do some random sexual thing.
I really don't understand the dehumanization here.
Yes….i attract aggression from men. Once a man in an camouflage jacket rode up to me on his bike while I was walking down the street, fiddled in his backpack, pulled out a bottle and sprayed me with something and said “We be sprayin’ bitches.”
I didn't get scared or upset, I didn't react, I just stood there and looked at him, and he put his backpack on and rode off.
I was in a black down winter coat and I looked like the typical urban mom. I’m pretty but not gorgeous.
I’m too tired to explain, but yes 1000x yes.
I’ve had the strangest encounters where men are downright hostile strangers
Walking across streets in traffic just to get in my face and say something horrid.
Mehhhhhhhhhh
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One of my best friends has reported this behavior from men many times over the years. She is a woman who does not dress for the male gaze, is very intelligent, funny, and magnetic and men can’t handle it.
I work in a male dominated field so running into men who want to start shit because they see a woman doing a "man's job" is a weekly (some weeks DAILY) occurance. But I have HR and usually other men feel the desire to back me up and tell that other guy to fuck off. I also had a guy slam a door in my face, but the difference was men desceneded on him in a fury to scream and shove him away from me.
Those dudes are awful, horrible people who's only joy in life is to make others miserable, too. It's unfortunate we have to share a world with them but it's not YOU that's doing anything wrong. They're just taking an opportunity to be evil and if you're small you seem like an easy target.